Well this one dissappeared as well ... wonder why ... although I think it was the Age newspaper blog which is normally fairly easy to post to.... (also see art@work response).
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I am outraged at this internationally embarrassing treatment of a guest working doctor in Australia. Rule of law: innocent until PROVEN guilty? Haa: our legal system is in tatters obviously. Keep sorting that ‘white-stuff’ girls and boys of the Bar: it’s only Rome burning!
So, without our 'working class' hero-Hicks being tortured in Gitmo-bay and in our daily-newspaper blogs, it seems our national systemic racism needs a quick fix. Here we are again exposed even more clearly to Howard's fascist leanings.
We get the quiet 'mia culpa' of his front-page pouting lip (what’s wrong with me?) contrasted with this cynical pandering to an easy win over ‘small brown aliens’ [by way of young graduate Indian doctors]. Pauline’s racist crowds come running to the ballot box. Has anyone noticed a similarity between the Coen Brothers (O Brother Where Art Thou) Klan leader and Howard?
How much more of this hysterical drivel do we have to face before the December election? I hope India stands up for one of their own and makes these bully-boy-cowards squirm all the way to opposition oblivion.
I know we can't expect much from 'wedge-shy' Rudd and co. Perhaps his QLD-Christianity only translates into Mandarin? Enough silence to make one dream of getting Beazley back!
Thursday, July 19, 2007
Wascally Wicked Web: Big Bad Internet's Fault!
Well, done a couple over the last few days and no show .. nothing gets through ... I must be on the black-list or being out 'snoopered' ... so here for the record ... this one is a response to the false anti-democratic facist tilt at the internet as the big-bad-boggy supporting little binladdens -- yes, it's all its fault -- nothing to do with the cars he drives, the banks he uses, the phone systems, and the amazing collection of loose change his old man collected by being a Saudi stooge. Yep -- it's the internet folks!!!
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I’m sorry, but this American ‘intelligence’ assessment has to be taken with a smile… They have 10’s of thousands working in various agencies ‘sniffing’ everything – voice, fax, email, internet sites, [butts and armpits] – the works … a real spider in its web could do some learning.
What they are suffering from, as has been the case since their ‘bubble-boy’ president sat there in grade-5 stunned for 7 minutes reading goat stories while the Twin Towers burnt, is a basic confusion between fact/reality and imagination driven hypothesis forming – commonly known as ‘scenario planning’. Their current ‘madness’ is simply a natural response to a growing ‘peeping tom’ culture that is seeing too much. Yes, they are joining up them dots, and cracking those patterns … as many patients seeing certain doctors do. They need to get over it and understand that their foreign policy should start on their country’s shoreline – not everyone else’s bedroom.
So rephrasing it: “We [i.e. I, me & myself] assess that globalisation trends and recent technological advances will continue to drive the Americans mad by reinforcing their natural paranoid and guilt so that even small numbers of alienated unhappy people can suck up vast amounts of state resources on senseless ‘snooping’ without requiring any centralised organisation, training camp or leader…”
“It’s clear that the integrated international banking system, mobile phone systems, globalised capital and corrupt organised crime and cronyism (especially in bin Laden’s Saudi Arabia) has supported a small network of spoilt rich boys from Texas to Kabul to Baghdad to play their war games with real innocent peoples lives and assets. The internet has only been one of the reasons that the threat of al-Qa’ida and American hegemony has developed into a global phenomenon of concern for many peace loving people.”
Don’t blame the interconnection of people – blame the idiots who don’t know how to live with the ‘Other’ and yet lust for power.
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I’m sorry, but this American ‘intelligence’ assessment has to be taken with a smile… They have 10’s of thousands working in various agencies ‘sniffing’ everything – voice, fax, email, internet sites, [butts and armpits] – the works … a real spider in its web could do some learning.
What they are suffering from, as has been the case since their ‘bubble-boy’ president sat there in grade-5 stunned for 7 minutes reading goat stories while the Twin Towers burnt, is a basic confusion between fact/reality and imagination driven hypothesis forming – commonly known as ‘scenario planning’. Their current ‘madness’ is simply a natural response to a growing ‘peeping tom’ culture that is seeing too much. Yes, they are joining up them dots, and cracking those patterns … as many patients seeing certain doctors do. They need to get over it and understand that their foreign policy should start on their country’s shoreline – not everyone else’s bedroom.
So rephrasing it: “We [i.e. I, me & myself] assess that globalisation trends and recent technological advances will continue to drive the Americans mad by reinforcing their natural paranoid and guilt so that even small numbers of alienated unhappy people can suck up vast amounts of state resources on senseless ‘snooping’ without requiring any centralised organisation, training camp or leader…”
“It’s clear that the integrated international banking system, mobile phone systems, globalised capital and corrupt organised crime and cronyism (especially in bin Laden’s Saudi Arabia) has supported a small network of spoilt rich boys from Texas to Kabul to Baghdad to play their war games with real innocent peoples lives and assets. The internet has only been one of the reasons that the threat of al-Qa’ida and American hegemony has developed into a global phenomenon of concern for many peace loving people.”
Don’t blame the interconnection of people – blame the idiots who don’t know how to live with the ‘Other’ and yet lust for power.
Sunday, July 01, 2007
No Go -- Zero out of Ten!
Total Rejection: Well, I thought I had something to say but "Matt the Knat" -- The Australian newpaper's man of the minor moment has seen fit to ignor profound and sharp Saturday night observation from the suburbs... so be it ... but here is my revenge. I emailed it to my usual polly "fan club" (and Phillip Adams) and so expect the governance system of Australia will now take note and appropriate action in due course from this vital strategic 'free-of-charge' feedback! ... ;-)p.
Here it is (with a few typo corrections etc)
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I think that Howard has done a Latham.
With nothing to loose (as the poles indicate) this is a classic ‘all-or-nothing’ effort to create a miasma of new meta-narrative that has little more ultimate meaning than to keep the ALP's Kevin Rudd and team off the front page and out of the media and therefore the public's 3 minute memory.
It’s more pandora’s box than cyclone. Be honest: does it not feel like a hundred years ago that Rudd and Gillard and industrial relations were on the breakfast table every single day? And I’m more concerned that Howard is sending in QLD cops … he must want a few deaths on the way to town. The question for me is: why isn’t there a general indigenous uprising at the indignities they have been suffering in one of the wealthiest nations on the planet.
I invite those who think I’m ‘out there’ [with this scenario thinking] to check the story by the ex-Governor of WA, Lt-Gen. John Sanderson titled: “WA in civil war with Aboriginals: Sanderson” (West Australian, 26 March 2007, p.2). Howard’s use of army and police forces is only a symbolic effort (10 from each State = 60-70 total! … the numbers are pathetic). Will we have conscription to arm this new military push into Australia’s heart of darkness?
Premier Carpenter said it correctly when he called it a Howard stunt and the ALP is smart for using the Sate premiers to voice this angle -- thus leaving Rudd wriggle room as Mr Conservative. Given that Rudd is prepared to say “sorry” the indigenous people of this country (West Australian, 28 May 2007, p.12) then maybe this is a good time for bipartisan leadership by 'Pastor Rudd'? Perhaps he could take little Johnny Howard’s hand and together, as leaders of government and opposition, say the “SORRY” word? Maybe Kevin’s special touch can soften Keating’s little ‘desiccated coconut’? Then they can both sit down and use the “PROMISE” word – as in: “I promise as the next prime minister to help you poor people by …”. I think we would all learn a lot about leadership and who is the bigger man, politically and spiritually.
It’s all in the higher connections I think. Now that Howard has prayed for rain and got plenty to fall in the Eastern States – perhaps he could also , along with Mr Rudd, pray for the deliverance of the indigenous peoples of Australia from this long-term systemic pestulance they are suffering in their own land. Or are they 'illegal imigrants' who should have known better that this was vacant British Crown land just waiting for Captain Cooke and co?
And obviously we now have an opportunity for the Imams of Australia to go and sit down with the indigenous peoples of the desert regions and explain why Islam prohibits alcohol and distains pornography – the former flowing strongly in the blood of the western world as we know it to today, the latter one of the biggest internet industries on the planet.
So on this future big-Ozzie ‘BROADBAND’ that’s going to be ‘99.everywhere man%’ am I going to have to logon and tick the box that says “I am not an Australian Aboriginal” before I can sit down on Saturday night with a lite-beer and go do some global ‘soft-porn’ surfing? Get in the real world! Try this popular song, it says it all: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWEjvCRPrCo There are many graphic versions.
I read this invasion ‘exercise’ as Howard’s panic. Smoothly done, but so yesterday already. I want back to IR, union boof-heads, tax-cheating CEOs, and Phillip Adams’ general swipes at our culture of indifference. Neither this problem, nor its ‘fix’, is news. It’s a long-term national scandal and should consume the whole “Future Fund” that has been put aside for the ‘chinless tea-drinking public servants’ of Canberra. Something that Costello should be able fix with his ‘super economics’ equations!
First with Howard it was ‘children overboard’ and now it's this final ‘B-side’ flip tune: “Policy Overboard”. And just before APEC to! Run Johnny, run … like Blair and Bush, your race is almost done! Who said it was not about race! Carpenter has also done well out of this, and has a classic case-study in WA shutting down Perth indigenous camps -- while I understand Howard still supports their reestablishment thought the courts.
Where to from here? It looks like it’s ‘over to the Murdoch press’ to work it all out for our breakfast table. We know Rupert is working for George W., but who’s George working for?
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Submitted (30-07-07) to – http://blogs.theaustralian.news.com.au/mattprice/index.php/theaustralian/comments/no_doubt_carpenter_moved_by_passion_not_parsimony/ but it was started for this following blog and so is a bit of a mix -- perhaps that is what confused our poor little Matt? http://blogs.theaustralian.news.com.au/mattprice/index.php/theaustralian/comments/its_cyclone_mal_and_whose_army
Here it is (with a few typo corrections etc)
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I think that Howard has done a Latham.
With nothing to loose (as the poles indicate) this is a classic ‘all-or-nothing’ effort to create a miasma of new meta-narrative that has little more ultimate meaning than to keep the ALP's Kevin Rudd and team off the front page and out of the media and therefore the public's 3 minute memory.
It’s more pandora’s box than cyclone. Be honest: does it not feel like a hundred years ago that Rudd and Gillard and industrial relations were on the breakfast table every single day? And I’m more concerned that Howard is sending in QLD cops … he must want a few deaths on the way to town. The question for me is: why isn’t there a general indigenous uprising at the indignities they have been suffering in one of the wealthiest nations on the planet.
I invite those who think I’m ‘out there’ [with this scenario thinking] to check the story by the ex-Governor of WA, Lt-Gen. John Sanderson titled: “WA in civil war with Aboriginals: Sanderson” (West Australian, 26 March 2007, p.2). Howard’s use of army and police forces is only a symbolic effort (10 from each State = 60-70 total! … the numbers are pathetic). Will we have conscription to arm this new military push into Australia’s heart of darkness?
Premier Carpenter said it correctly when he called it a Howard stunt and the ALP is smart for using the Sate premiers to voice this angle -- thus leaving Rudd wriggle room as Mr Conservative. Given that Rudd is prepared to say “sorry” the indigenous people of this country (West Australian, 28 May 2007, p.12) then maybe this is a good time for bipartisan leadership by 'Pastor Rudd'? Perhaps he could take little Johnny Howard’s hand and together, as leaders of government and opposition, say the “SORRY” word? Maybe Kevin’s special touch can soften Keating’s little ‘desiccated coconut’? Then they can both sit down and use the “PROMISE” word – as in: “I promise as the next prime minister to help you poor people by …”. I think we would all learn a lot about leadership and who is the bigger man, politically and spiritually.
It’s all in the higher connections I think. Now that Howard has prayed for rain and got plenty to fall in the Eastern States – perhaps he could also , along with Mr Rudd, pray for the deliverance of the indigenous peoples of Australia from this long-term systemic pestulance they are suffering in their own land. Or are they 'illegal imigrants' who should have known better that this was vacant British Crown land just waiting for Captain Cooke and co?
And obviously we now have an opportunity for the Imams of Australia to go and sit down with the indigenous peoples of the desert regions and explain why Islam prohibits alcohol and distains pornography – the former flowing strongly in the blood of the western world as we know it to today, the latter one of the biggest internet industries on the planet.
So on this future big-Ozzie ‘BROADBAND’ that’s going to be ‘99.everywhere man%’ am I going to have to logon and tick the box that says “I am not an Australian Aboriginal” before I can sit down on Saturday night with a lite-beer and go do some global ‘soft-porn’ surfing? Get in the real world! Try this popular song, it says it all: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWEjvCRPrCo There are many graphic versions.
I read this invasion ‘exercise’ as Howard’s panic. Smoothly done, but so yesterday already. I want back to IR, union boof-heads, tax-cheating CEOs, and Phillip Adams’ general swipes at our culture of indifference. Neither this problem, nor its ‘fix’, is news. It’s a long-term national scandal and should consume the whole “Future Fund” that has been put aside for the ‘chinless tea-drinking public servants’ of Canberra. Something that Costello should be able fix with his ‘super economics’ equations!
First with Howard it was ‘children overboard’ and now it's this final ‘B-side’ flip tune: “Policy Overboard”. And just before APEC to! Run Johnny, run … like Blair and Bush, your race is almost done! Who said it was not about race! Carpenter has also done well out of this, and has a classic case-study in WA shutting down Perth indigenous camps -- while I understand Howard still supports their reestablishment thought the courts.
Where to from here? It looks like it’s ‘over to the Murdoch press’ to work it all out for our breakfast table. We know Rupert is working for George W., but who’s George working for?
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Submitted (30-07-07) to – http://blogs.theaustralian.news.com.au/mattprice/index.php/theaustralian/comments/no_doubt_carpenter_moved_by_passion_not_parsimony/ but it was started for this following blog and so is a bit of a mix -- perhaps that is what confused our poor little Matt? http://blogs.theaustralian.news.com.au/mattprice/index.php/theaustralian/comments/its_cyclone_mal_and_whose_army
Sunday, June 24, 2007
All except the last sentence got thru...
How many Iraqis (military & civilian) have been killed and maimed and left destitute because of this person's religious 'convictions' and cooked up 'intelligence'?
Blair should just slink off the stage and let the next crew try and clean up the mess that he, Bush and Howard have created with their crazy crusader dreaming. I'd drop him off in the desert somewhere and leave him to keep looking for the WMD's for the rest of his life ... they must be out there somewhere!
Sorry Tony, this is not your show ... and there is a court of international justice that you should be visiting ... as a customer.
Based on his Irish efforts, I'd possibly let him out on probation as long as he manages to get Israel back to the 1967 borders and frees the Palestinians from the apartheid systems being imposed on them in their own 'God given' country by the latest round of immigrants. But I fear that Zionism is far to 'convenient' for the moment in the 'big game'.
Tony, pop round to see George Galloway for some hints on walking in the other’s shoes for a mile or two. But then, you’d have to be following the way of Jesus to do that wouldn’t you! At the moment you just look a touch too ‘bushed’ to be of any use. The moment has been yours: now history is ours. Be a good chap and just piss off.
[The blog vanished after a day ... !]
Blair should just slink off the stage and let the next crew try and clean up the mess that he, Bush and Howard have created with their crazy crusader dreaming. I'd drop him off in the desert somewhere and leave him to keep looking for the WMD's for the rest of his life ... they must be out there somewhere!
Sorry Tony, this is not your show ... and there is a court of international justice that you should be visiting ... as a customer.
Based on his Irish efforts, I'd possibly let him out on probation as long as he manages to get Israel back to the 1967 borders and frees the Palestinians from the apartheid systems being imposed on them in their own 'God given' country by the latest round of immigrants. But I fear that Zionism is far to 'convenient' for the moment in the 'big game'.
Tony, pop round to see George Galloway for some hints on walking in the other’s shoes for a mile or two. But then, you’d have to be following the way of Jesus to do that wouldn’t you! At the moment you just look a touch too ‘bushed’ to be of any use. The moment has been yours: now history is ours. Be a good chap and just piss off.
[The blog vanished after a day ... !]
Saturday, May 26, 2007
Another Australian Hooked Nose & Claw
Well this one was in the style of a rant at a particularly obnoxious female at The Australian (Janet Albrechtsen ) -- it did not get published. As was be expected. It came first of the three in this series.
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Well I don’t usually start a letter with an observation on the ugliness behind the pretty mask – but it sure is easy to see here – right front and centre behind the hooked hawkish nose. No dove’s beak that one. I only regret that I am not able to administer a George Galloway style reply at your ridiculousness. What a foolish woman. That you attempt to mislead the Australian public on the facts behind this case is shameful. I have no expectations that this reactionary paper will publish this text – it matters not, I publish the ‘input’ and ‘output’ on a public blog site anyway. And the material is also emailed to a small list of respected writers, activists and parliamentarians.
So I submit this to let you and others know that I am outraged that a fellow Australian citizen can be tortured into submission, to confess to a retrospective crime he did not commit at the time – especially by Australian law – and this government has the affront to lock him away in solitary confinement until after the election.
Here in WA someone just left prison after a couple of years and he (it appears) was actually preparing to act against the Australian domestic law of the time. So why has David Hicks to continue through this farce another day? At our taxpayers expense as well! We are being treated as chumps. More punishment from the kangaroo court?
The story has not gone away – it has gotten bigger and is now a wholly domestic issue. The Americans can go jump on this one: their mental mad-house is failing, but we need not be part of it. And how much pressure was brought to bear to drop legal proceedings against members of the government?
There should be an immediate investigation into the abuse of Australian law – technically the man is innocent of any Australian crime (as we all well know – including yourself) and being held against his will – and many of ours as well. Here now today on our soil. I say free David Hicks, give him justice, and freedom and the basic right to benefit from his life’s story – which has not been proven to be in error by any accepted court process. I say support Getup!
Howard, Ruddock, Downer have stuffed up on this one big time – bigger than the AWA fiasco even.
I’m ready with 10,000 words for freedom of people from illegal psycho-bullying and misguided abuse of the Australian justice system by our elected leadership.
This is not personal – it’s principle. The only thing David Hicks did that has any meaning is take the smart road home after five and a half years of psycho-physical abuse while being held without due court process. Your words – and those of the rest of the media are incorrect and simply reflect blind prejudice. Have we invented a fourth arm of government here? No I don’t think so. Have any Americans been through this, up until a few months ago, illegal military commission process? No. Why not? Hastily rushed executive orders from Bush – simply prove the point.
And where is our legal system today – yes ours … or did we give that up in globalised FTA deals as well? Based on recent concerns published about drug use in the legal system – going up the fat-cat noses of cocaine sniffing lawyers perhaps?
I say wake up d---heads! This is not dreamtime. This is your chance, nay your duty, to prove you collectively are not just over paid social parasites.
Time for change? Sure is!
I am going to vote Labor this election and also work actively for the first time in my 51 years to make it happen: and the one reason to overcome my political sloth? This treatment of David Hicks – both by the Americans (Major Mori and his support team exempted); the Australian government who have done stuff all by way of achieving justice outcomes for Hicks; odious biased media like this paper (Phillip Adams exempted); and trumped up kitchen muffins like yourself.
I look forward to Hicks writing his story and may he and his family become wealthy through it. What rubbish that these crumbling politicians make empty threats about denying him his rights.
Listen – it is quiet simple 101 stuff: (a) he did not commit an Australian crime while associating with the governing forces of Afghanistan; (b) he has been through over five years of intense psycho-physical bullying and torture; (c) he has elected, after standing his ground for this time, to now take the quicker/easier way out (even Galileo did similar recanting, although the earth still continued to traverse the sun); and (d) this abuse of our legal system is an attack on us all and our freedoms – worse than any ‘bang’ that might happen on a freeway or house of worship.
The accountability stops with Howard, Ruddock and Downer. And I say a ‘pox on them’ over this matter would not be unreasonable. Now can one be arrested for issuing a ‘pox’? I’m not sure, but I’m sure that somewhere in the future Ruddock (& co.) will be issuing a ‘fatwah’ against poxing and I’ll be at risk of rendition for retrospective ‘witchcraft’. Ahhh, so be it if it means their undoing now!
What a farce of justice this is. And you, dear writer, are a sad clown dancing to its passing parade. Petard yourself. You seem a touch biased – his name is David Hicks – and the bad smell behind you is the propaganda you write here. Shame on you. Only fools can’t sense it and fortunately their numbers are decreasing.
But the bigger shame is on your suggestion that the general public’s opinion matters in the proper system of justice. Dear girl – not at all. It is law that matters! If you want a hang’n or a witch to burn then go live in the ‘Deep South’ (e.g. try Texas) where, only a few decades ago, they used to lynch black men and shoot presidents. The reason? Same as now – they were mad! And still are! And by the way I think I can see a wart growing on the end of your nose: so quick, before ‘they’ see it and turn on you next! Ready for a dunking Delilah?
Welcome home David Hicks.
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Well I don’t usually start a letter with an observation on the ugliness behind the pretty mask – but it sure is easy to see here – right front and centre behind the hooked hawkish nose. No dove’s beak that one. I only regret that I am not able to administer a George Galloway style reply at your ridiculousness. What a foolish woman. That you attempt to mislead the Australian public on the facts behind this case is shameful. I have no expectations that this reactionary paper will publish this text – it matters not, I publish the ‘input’ and ‘output’ on a public blog site anyway. And the material is also emailed to a small list of respected writers, activists and parliamentarians.
So I submit this to let you and others know that I am outraged that a fellow Australian citizen can be tortured into submission, to confess to a retrospective crime he did not commit at the time – especially by Australian law – and this government has the affront to lock him away in solitary confinement until after the election.
Here in WA someone just left prison after a couple of years and he (it appears) was actually preparing to act against the Australian domestic law of the time. So why has David Hicks to continue through this farce another day? At our taxpayers expense as well! We are being treated as chumps. More punishment from the kangaroo court?
The story has not gone away – it has gotten bigger and is now a wholly domestic issue. The Americans can go jump on this one: their mental mad-house is failing, but we need not be part of it. And how much pressure was brought to bear to drop legal proceedings against members of the government?
There should be an immediate investigation into the abuse of Australian law – technically the man is innocent of any Australian crime (as we all well know – including yourself) and being held against his will – and many of ours as well. Here now today on our soil. I say free David Hicks, give him justice, and freedom and the basic right to benefit from his life’s story – which has not been proven to be in error by any accepted court process. I say support Getup!
Howard, Ruddock, Downer have stuffed up on this one big time – bigger than the AWA fiasco even.
I’m ready with 10,000 words for freedom of people from illegal psycho-bullying and misguided abuse of the Australian justice system by our elected leadership.
This is not personal – it’s principle. The only thing David Hicks did that has any meaning is take the smart road home after five and a half years of psycho-physical abuse while being held without due court process. Your words – and those of the rest of the media are incorrect and simply reflect blind prejudice. Have we invented a fourth arm of government here? No I don’t think so. Have any Americans been through this, up until a few months ago, illegal military commission process? No. Why not? Hastily rushed executive orders from Bush – simply prove the point.
And where is our legal system today – yes ours … or did we give that up in globalised FTA deals as well? Based on recent concerns published about drug use in the legal system – going up the fat-cat noses of cocaine sniffing lawyers perhaps?
I say wake up d---heads! This is not dreamtime. This is your chance, nay your duty, to prove you collectively are not just over paid social parasites.
Time for change? Sure is!
I am going to vote Labor this election and also work actively for the first time in my 51 years to make it happen: and the one reason to overcome my political sloth? This treatment of David Hicks – both by the Americans (Major Mori and his support team exempted); the Australian government who have done stuff all by way of achieving justice outcomes for Hicks; odious biased media like this paper (Phillip Adams exempted); and trumped up kitchen muffins like yourself.
I look forward to Hicks writing his story and may he and his family become wealthy through it. What rubbish that these crumbling politicians make empty threats about denying him his rights.
Listen – it is quiet simple 101 stuff: (a) he did not commit an Australian crime while associating with the governing forces of Afghanistan; (b) he has been through over five years of intense psycho-physical bullying and torture; (c) he has elected, after standing his ground for this time, to now take the quicker/easier way out (even Galileo did similar recanting, although the earth still continued to traverse the sun); and (d) this abuse of our legal system is an attack on us all and our freedoms – worse than any ‘bang’ that might happen on a freeway or house of worship.
The accountability stops with Howard, Ruddock and Downer. And I say a ‘pox on them’ over this matter would not be unreasonable. Now can one be arrested for issuing a ‘pox’? I’m not sure, but I’m sure that somewhere in the future Ruddock (& co.) will be issuing a ‘fatwah’ against poxing and I’ll be at risk of rendition for retrospective ‘witchcraft’. Ahhh, so be it if it means their undoing now!
What a farce of justice this is. And you, dear writer, are a sad clown dancing to its passing parade. Petard yourself. You seem a touch biased – his name is David Hicks – and the bad smell behind you is the propaganda you write here. Shame on you. Only fools can’t sense it and fortunately their numbers are decreasing.
But the bigger shame is on your suggestion that the general public’s opinion matters in the proper system of justice. Dear girl – not at all. It is law that matters! If you want a hang’n or a witch to burn then go live in the ‘Deep South’ (e.g. try Texas) where, only a few decades ago, they used to lynch black men and shoot presidents. The reason? Same as now – they were mad! And still are! And by the way I think I can see a wart growing on the end of your nose: so quick, before ‘they’ see it and turn on you next! Ready for a dunking Delilah?
Welcome home David Hicks.
[And a post-script for the blog-master or mistress as the case may be]
"Publish as is if you dare – or not at all."Hicks @ The Australian
This version to The Australian (Matt Price Blog) go through pretty much.
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What are The Australian 'team' (Phillip Adams exempted) struggling with on this matter ... some form of guilt or shame at being taken for the proverbial ride?
It is obvious that the cookie is crumbling from London, Washington and now through to Canberra (or should I say Sydney).
Generally you have collectively exposed yourselves to be an effective propaganda machine for vested interests – and strangely combine this with some actual good journalism. However, on the Hick case, you generally have missed the plot: too caught up in the miasma of the mental muffins we easily refer to as the three stooges: Bush, Blair & Howard.
In Paul Kelly’s story today [“Hicks case is not a black and white matter -- (http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21777732-12250,00.html)] he neither the “Pentagon nor the human rights lobby come out looking credible in this story, writes editor-at-large Paul Kelly”.
Well I agree with the first half of the statement. The second is irrelevant and I personally disagree. However, this type of re-positioning of the newspaper is entertainment in itself.
Firstly, thank you for the book review. I now won’t be buying it. I expected more. Let me repay you through a quick review of your story – there are some good points and some obvious ‘issues’:
1. Hicks is not the issue – it is treatment he received by the USA military (Mori exempt) and the lack of support he received by our Australian government. That Howard has come out as the American toady of the decade is not only obvious but fits his mini-me Menzies’ profile – but this time it is the buns of a ‘Big Mac’ that he trying to crawl us through rather than the arches of the English royal house.
2. Secondly you fail to mention that Blair did the right thing for his citizens in respect to Gito-bay. End of story. Howard stands condemned and at risk in my opinion of future civil claims.
3. You of course seek to perpetuate the myths surrounding Hicks by mentioning training in three organisations. So, was that a crime? None. So, what is your point? I’m sure the terrorist organisation that finally became the (for some) legitimate State organisation called ‘Israel’ sets a nice precedent for all minority groups that seek to free their homelands. How do you know Hicks is best trained ‘white man’? Is ‘white’ something of a racial value here? So ‘black’, ‘brown’, yellow’ and ‘red’ men don’t count? And are you including the feral Australian army elements that become mercenary soldiers of fortune round the world – or even sell a few anti-tank missiles to Australian organised crime? Or are they all ‘non-white’?
4. Your thesis that there is war of civilizations is not proven – simply believed by any incredulous subservient to the latest public hysteria story. As you point out correctly – Hicks was fighting in Afghanistan, for the government of the day against a terrorist organisation called the ‘Northern Alliance’ – that same band of renegade thugs and drug traders that now largely run the country and the world’s expanding heroin trade I assume.
5. I note that we are not at war with any country that has tried to ‘invade’ us – but continuously hear from the media that we are about to be. Sorry, I beg to differ. What reactionary forces that are ‘out there’ seeking our demise are simply the results of these aggressive invasions that have been going one in recent times – since 1948 even. Why don’t the media argue for a change in public policy? Anything to do with media ownership by any chance?
6. I remind you that you should be accurate in your reporting: “9/11” was not an act of war. Acts of war are committed by States. It is about as sensible to say that the Melbourne underground criminal network does acts of war. It is simply crime – albeit on a larger scale. Please be more accurate in the future and stop perpetuating the ‘myth’.
7. I might point out that these organisations (which you refer to as ‘terrorists organisations’) are only fighting the US because the US is meddling in their localities. I suggest you draw us some simple correlation maps using oil or drugs and see where tin-pot puppet regimes overlap with such resources. Then is easier to see a more accurate description of piracy and plunder applies - since the end of WW1 even.
The issue here for me, and I’m sure a lot of others, is not about ‘honour’ or even ‘clueless ness’ -- it is about the abuse of the rule of law by Howard and Ruddock – I leave Downer out of this because I don’t think he has any serious contribution to make.
I point out on this subject:
1. Here in WA someone just left prison after a couple of years and he (it appears) was actually preparing to act against the Australian domestic law of the time. So why has David Hicks to continue through this farce another day? At our taxpayers expense as well! We are being treated as chumps. More punishment from the kangaroo court?
2. The only thing David Hicks did that has any meaning is take the smart road home after five and a half years of psycho-physical abuse and torture while being held without due court process. Have we invented a fourth arm of government here? Prejudiced media and corrupted military process. And largely not our own either. Have any Americans been through this Cuban experience? No. Was it illegal until a few months ago -- i.e. an illegal military commission process? Yes.
I look forward to Hicks writing his story and hope he and his family become wealthy through this suffering. What rubbish that these politicians make empty threats about denying him his rights.
It is quiet simple 101 stuff: (a) he did not commit an Australian crime while associating with the governing forces of Afghanistan; (b) he has suffered over five years of intense psycho-physical bullying and torture -- which is continuing in Adelaide -- albeit without the torture I assume; (c) he has elected, after standing his ground on principle for this time, to now take the quicker/easier way out and home (even Galileo did similar recanting, although the earth still continued to traverse the sun); and (d) this abuse of our legal system is an attack on us all and our freedoms – worse than any ‘bang’ that might happen in freeway traffic or a house of worship.
So why not give Hicks due respect for his rights – they are the same rights as yours and mine are they not? This is about rights. Get it? Not about Hicks.
I watched the Lindy Chamberlain saga windup and unwind: so, he we are again. It says more about the Australian culture (or lack of it) than any individual. That is the shame of it.
Hicks is only responsible for what he did or did not do. He is not a proxy’s for the ‘big war on everything’ that is going on in the minds of the ageing and infirm. This phenomena is more correctly diagnosed as related to culture – and the correct response is cultural, not war.
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What are The Australian 'team' (Phillip Adams exempted) struggling with on this matter ... some form of guilt or shame at being taken for the proverbial ride?
It is obvious that the cookie is crumbling from London, Washington and now through to Canberra (or should I say Sydney).
Generally you have collectively exposed yourselves to be an effective propaganda machine for vested interests – and strangely combine this with some actual good journalism. However, on the Hick case, you generally have missed the plot: too caught up in the miasma of the mental muffins we easily refer to as the three stooges: Bush, Blair & Howard.
In Paul Kelly’s story today [“Hicks case is not a black and white matter -- (http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21777732-12250,00.html)] he neither the “Pentagon nor the human rights lobby come out looking credible in this story, writes editor-at-large Paul Kelly”.
Well I agree with the first half of the statement. The second is irrelevant and I personally disagree. However, this type of re-positioning of the newspaper is entertainment in itself.
Firstly, thank you for the book review. I now won’t be buying it. I expected more. Let me repay you through a quick review of your story – there are some good points and some obvious ‘issues’:
1. Hicks is not the issue – it is treatment he received by the USA military (Mori exempt) and the lack of support he received by our Australian government. That Howard has come out as the American toady of the decade is not only obvious but fits his mini-me Menzies’ profile – but this time it is the buns of a ‘Big Mac’ that he trying to crawl us through rather than the arches of the English royal house.
2. Secondly you fail to mention that Blair did the right thing for his citizens in respect to Gito-bay. End of story. Howard stands condemned and at risk in my opinion of future civil claims.
3. You of course seek to perpetuate the myths surrounding Hicks by mentioning training in three organisations. So, was that a crime? None. So, what is your point? I’m sure the terrorist organisation that finally became the (for some) legitimate State organisation called ‘Israel’ sets a nice precedent for all minority groups that seek to free their homelands. How do you know Hicks is best trained ‘white man’? Is ‘white’ something of a racial value here? So ‘black’, ‘brown’, yellow’ and ‘red’ men don’t count? And are you including the feral Australian army elements that become mercenary soldiers of fortune round the world – or even sell a few anti-tank missiles to Australian organised crime? Or are they all ‘non-white’?
4. Your thesis that there is war of civilizations is not proven – simply believed by any incredulous subservient to the latest public hysteria story. As you point out correctly – Hicks was fighting in Afghanistan, for the government of the day against a terrorist organisation called the ‘Northern Alliance’ – that same band of renegade thugs and drug traders that now largely run the country and the world’s expanding heroin trade I assume.
5. I note that we are not at war with any country that has tried to ‘invade’ us – but continuously hear from the media that we are about to be. Sorry, I beg to differ. What reactionary forces that are ‘out there’ seeking our demise are simply the results of these aggressive invasions that have been going one in recent times – since 1948 even. Why don’t the media argue for a change in public policy? Anything to do with media ownership by any chance?
6. I remind you that you should be accurate in your reporting: “9/11” was not an act of war. Acts of war are committed by States. It is about as sensible to say that the Melbourne underground criminal network does acts of war. It is simply crime – albeit on a larger scale. Please be more accurate in the future and stop perpetuating the ‘myth’.
7. I might point out that these organisations (which you refer to as ‘terrorists organisations’) are only fighting the US because the US is meddling in their localities. I suggest you draw us some simple correlation maps using oil or drugs and see where tin-pot puppet regimes overlap with such resources. Then is easier to see a more accurate description of piracy and plunder applies - since the end of WW1 even.
The issue here for me, and I’m sure a lot of others, is not about ‘honour’ or even ‘clueless ness’ -- it is about the abuse of the rule of law by Howard and Ruddock – I leave Downer out of this because I don’t think he has any serious contribution to make.
I point out on this subject:
1. Here in WA someone just left prison after a couple of years and he (it appears) was actually preparing to act against the Australian domestic law of the time. So why has David Hicks to continue through this farce another day? At our taxpayers expense as well! We are being treated as chumps. More punishment from the kangaroo court?
2. The only thing David Hicks did that has any meaning is take the smart road home after five and a half years of psycho-physical abuse and torture while being held without due court process. Have we invented a fourth arm of government here? Prejudiced media and corrupted military process. And largely not our own either. Have any Americans been through this Cuban experience? No. Was it illegal until a few months ago -- i.e. an illegal military commission process? Yes.
I look forward to Hicks writing his story and hope he and his family become wealthy through this suffering. What rubbish that these politicians make empty threats about denying him his rights.
It is quiet simple 101 stuff: (a) he did not commit an Australian crime while associating with the governing forces of Afghanistan; (b) he has suffered over five years of intense psycho-physical bullying and torture -- which is continuing in Adelaide -- albeit without the torture I assume; (c) he has elected, after standing his ground on principle for this time, to now take the quicker/easier way out and home (even Galileo did similar recanting, although the earth still continued to traverse the sun); and (d) this abuse of our legal system is an attack on us all and our freedoms – worse than any ‘bang’ that might happen in freeway traffic or a house of worship.
So why not give Hicks due respect for his rights – they are the same rights as yours and mine are they not? This is about rights. Get it? Not about Hicks.
I watched the Lindy Chamberlain saga windup and unwind: so, he we are again. It says more about the Australian culture (or lack of it) than any individual. That is the shame of it.
Hicks is only responsible for what he did or did not do. He is not a proxy’s for the ‘big war on everything’ that is going on in the minds of the ageing and infirm. This phenomena is more correctly diagnosed as related to culture – and the correct response is cultural, not war.
Hicks @ Paul Kelly
Submitted to The Australian - Paul Kelly blog (on a book on Hicks) and it only lasted anhour or two. This may have sunk it?
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Ok – I dropped a long response in Matt Price’s blog because I could not find one for you. So, I have also resubmitted a shorter version here of the key points.
Firstly, thank you for the book review. I now won’t be buying it. I expected more. You make some good points but there are obviously some ‘issues’ for The Australian, perhaps because they are starting to come tot terms with the changing Australian socio-political landscape. In respect to Hicks:
1. Hicks is not the issue – it is treatment he received by the USA military (Mori exempt) and the lack of Australian government support.
2. You fail to mention that Blair did the right thing for his citizens in respect to Gito-bay.
3. You perpetuate the myths surrounding Hicks in respect to training organisations. So, was that a crime? No. So, what is your point? I note that Israel sets a nice precedent for all minority groups that seek to free their homelands. What has changed since 1948?
4. You state that Hicks is a well trained ‘white man’? Is ‘white’ something of a racial value here? And do I assume that ‘black’, ‘brown’, yellow’ and ‘red’ men don’t count? And are you including the feral Australian army elements that become mercenary soldiers of fortune round the world – or even sell a few anti-tank missiles to Australian organised crime? Or are they all ‘non-white’?
5. The thesis that there is war of civilizations is not proven – simply believed. Hicks was fighting in Afghanistan, for their government of the day against a terrorist organisation called the ‘Northern Alliance’ – a band of renegade thugs and drug traders that now run the country and supply the world’s expanding heroin.
6. We are not at war with any country that has tried to ‘invade’ us – but continuously hear from the media that we are about to be. Sorry, I beg to differ. The reactionary forces ‘out there’ seeking our demise are simply the results of aggressive invasions. Why don’t the media argue for a change in public policy?
7. “9/11” was not an act of war. Acts of war are committed by States. It is simply crime – albeit on a larger scale.
8. Organisations, which you refer to as ‘terrorist organisations’, are fighting the US (and others) because of meddling in their localities – e.g. Vietnam. Draw simple correlation maps using oil, drugs and tin-pot puppet regimes and it easy to reframe this as piracy and plunder. Would we react differently? Some might – but under Japanese occupation (scenario B 1945) these people would be terrorist of the State – or would they be those fighting the ‘war of independence’? Depends on their colour (&/or religion) I assume.
9. The issue is not about ‘honour’ or even ‘clueless ness’ -- it is about the abuse of the rule of law by Howard and Ruddock. .
The only thing David Hicks did that has any meaning is take the smart road home after five and a half years of psycho-physical abuse and torture while being held without due court process. Have any Americans been through this Cuban experience? No. Was it an illegal military commission process until a few months ago? Yes.
I look forward to reading Hicks’ story and hope he and his family benefit through this suffering. What rubbish that politicians make empty threats about denying him his rights. It is quiet simple 101 stuff: (a) he did not commit an Australian crime while associating with the governing forces of Afghanistan; (b) he has been suffered over five years detention and torture which is continuing in Adelaide through an election period; (c) he elected, after standing his ground on principle for all this time, to simply take the quicker/easier way out and home – even Galileo did similar recanting, although the earth still continued to traverse the sun; and (d) this abuse of our legal system is an attack on us all and our freedoms.
So give Hicks due respect for his rights – they are the same rights as yours and mine are they not? This is about rights. Not about Hicks. Get it?
Hicks is only responsible for what he did. He is not a proxy for everything going on in the minds of the public. This phenomena is related to culture – and the correct response is cultural, not military war. But I guess one has to have a culture to respond without guns it seems.
But the bigger shame is on us for even considering that the general public’s opinion matters at all in the proper functioning of our system of justice. I understand it is law that matters!
If you and the public want a hanging, or a witch to burn, then go live in the ‘Deep South’ (e.g. try Texas) where, only a few decades ago, they used to lynch black men. The reason? Same as now I assume: they were mad …and still are! So, perhaps a black & white issue underlays your story: but now it’s simply ‘bare-heads vs. turban’.
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Ok – I dropped a long response in Matt Price’s blog because I could not find one for you. So, I have also resubmitted a shorter version here of the key points.
Firstly, thank you for the book review. I now won’t be buying it. I expected more. You make some good points but there are obviously some ‘issues’ for The Australian, perhaps because they are starting to come tot terms with the changing Australian socio-political landscape. In respect to Hicks:
1. Hicks is not the issue – it is treatment he received by the USA military (Mori exempt) and the lack of Australian government support.
2. You fail to mention that Blair did the right thing for his citizens in respect to Gito-bay.
3. You perpetuate the myths surrounding Hicks in respect to training organisations. So, was that a crime? No. So, what is your point? I note that Israel sets a nice precedent for all minority groups that seek to free their homelands. What has changed since 1948?
4. You state that Hicks is a well trained ‘white man’? Is ‘white’ something of a racial value here? And do I assume that ‘black’, ‘brown’, yellow’ and ‘red’ men don’t count? And are you including the feral Australian army elements that become mercenary soldiers of fortune round the world – or even sell a few anti-tank missiles to Australian organised crime? Or are they all ‘non-white’?
5. The thesis that there is war of civilizations is not proven – simply believed. Hicks was fighting in Afghanistan, for their government of the day against a terrorist organisation called the ‘Northern Alliance’ – a band of renegade thugs and drug traders that now run the country and supply the world’s expanding heroin.
6. We are not at war with any country that has tried to ‘invade’ us – but continuously hear from the media that we are about to be. Sorry, I beg to differ. The reactionary forces ‘out there’ seeking our demise are simply the results of aggressive invasions. Why don’t the media argue for a change in public policy?
7. “9/11” was not an act of war. Acts of war are committed by States. It is simply crime – albeit on a larger scale.
8. Organisations, which you refer to as ‘terrorist organisations’, are fighting the US (and others) because of meddling in their localities – e.g. Vietnam. Draw simple correlation maps using oil, drugs and tin-pot puppet regimes and it easy to reframe this as piracy and plunder. Would we react differently? Some might – but under Japanese occupation (scenario B 1945) these people would be terrorist of the State – or would they be those fighting the ‘war of independence’? Depends on their colour (&/or religion) I assume.
9. The issue is not about ‘honour’ or even ‘clueless ness’ -- it is about the abuse of the rule of law by Howard and Ruddock. .
The only thing David Hicks did that has any meaning is take the smart road home after five and a half years of psycho-physical abuse and torture while being held without due court process. Have any Americans been through this Cuban experience? No. Was it an illegal military commission process until a few months ago? Yes.
I look forward to reading Hicks’ story and hope he and his family benefit through this suffering. What rubbish that politicians make empty threats about denying him his rights. It is quiet simple 101 stuff: (a) he did not commit an Australian crime while associating with the governing forces of Afghanistan; (b) he has been suffered over five years detention and torture which is continuing in Adelaide through an election period; (c) he elected, after standing his ground on principle for all this time, to simply take the quicker/easier way out and home – even Galileo did similar recanting, although the earth still continued to traverse the sun; and (d) this abuse of our legal system is an attack on us all and our freedoms.
So give Hicks due respect for his rights – they are the same rights as yours and mine are they not? This is about rights. Not about Hicks. Get it?
Hicks is only responsible for what he did. He is not a proxy for everything going on in the minds of the public. This phenomena is related to culture – and the correct response is cultural, not military war. But I guess one has to have a culture to respond without guns it seems.
But the bigger shame is on us for even considering that the general public’s opinion matters at all in the proper functioning of our system of justice. I understand it is law that matters!
If you and the public want a hanging, or a witch to burn, then go live in the ‘Deep South’ (e.g. try Texas) where, only a few decades ago, they used to lynch black men. The reason? Same as now I assume: they were mad …and still are! So, perhaps a black & white issue underlays your story: but now it’s simply ‘bare-heads vs. turban’.
Tuesday, May 15, 2007
GALLOP OVER THE TRUTH
Well, I dropped this into a 'sort of' suitable blog in The Australian with little expectation that it would get through. I was not disapointed -- it did not get through!
But I cc:'d it to others in the normal post-post process ... So, here for the public record it is ... I guess the original stroy will fall off the newspaper website -- so in brief: Geoff is Tony's school days buddy. He was WA's premier for a few years until he got 'sick' coming back from seeing Tony in late 2005. Here he aplogises for Tony. What are 'mates' for! And now Tony is going, going, gone.... yesterday's man.
In my opinion (and some others) Tony is a war criminal who has managed to spin his way out of being pinned for the deaths of 10-100,000's of innocent Iraqs -- for the time being at least. But history will hold him (and others invloved) to account.
Tony (and Geoff I understand) are what Phillip Adams would call "God Botherers" ... well I'm a believer too -- of accountability!
The cult watching goes on.... and on ... and on... tiresome really!
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GALLOP OVER THE TRUTH
AND … “Geoff Gallop: Idealistic advocate caught out by his lack of cynicism” (http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21724186-7583,00.html) is a sop to one of the key perpetrators of this modern [Iraqi] carnage. Gallop concludes 'ode' with a friend’s hug (did he not learn the consequences of cuddling war criminals late in 2005?).
Tony Blair is a ‘believing fool’ and possibly worse – like G.W. Bush, he obviously believes that the ‘Divine force’ spoke and directed his actions – yeh? … smoke the other one Tony, and unlike Clinton try inhaling! You may not get to see the Truth -- but you'll definitely see the bullshit that spins round your ego's like Ozzie bush flies.
I’d drop Tony off in the middle of Baghdad city without his parliamentary pension and with a kick up his backside out the car door saying: “Fix this mess, jerk!”. Oh, and I’d give him a copy of the Good News (Geoff) Testament – not to covert the locals, but to read in his hotel room.
DAY1: Thou Shall Not Kill (or murder). Case study. Visit the grave yard and snigger at the 10-100,000s of dead Iraqi women, children and old folk – not to mention the chard remains of the Iraqi army incinerated by depleted uranium munitions.
And off you go to Geoff. Good news everywhere, for the blind ... You seem to be into running away from the mess you helped create as well. Oh, by the way, WA Inc II is going well here old chap! … I mean ‘Mate!’.
So Geoffrey, stick by your dumb mates by all means – but don’t come back here and consume our much depleted public health budget with your ‘depressions’! Better it went to the systemic Indigenous health system problem than your self indulgent middle-class neurosis. No compassion? Too hard? Naaa, you're worth it!
Yes, you developed the Sustainability program for WA – good on you. But past the words you never set up the viable system to carry it through. Anyways, has it ever occurred to you that by mixing the truth and ethical stances with the likes of Bush, Blair & Howard you run the risk of major duplicity? You are the one who needs cynicism, old chap – especially in respect to this likely future citizen of the unredeemed realms of the next world.
Ok, I'll stop here. Here comes that ‘black dog’ again … quick get that goooood-olde ‘belief’ out again … and please do not give my regards to your mate Tony: I want nothing to do with that Karma …
Tra!
But I cc:'d it to others in the normal post-post process ... So, here for the public record it is ... I guess the original stroy will fall off the newspaper website -- so in brief: Geoff is Tony's school days buddy. He was WA's premier for a few years until he got 'sick' coming back from seeing Tony in late 2005. Here he aplogises for Tony. What are 'mates' for! And now Tony is going, going, gone.... yesterday's man.
In my opinion (and some others) Tony is a war criminal who has managed to spin his way out of being pinned for the deaths of 10-100,000's of innocent Iraqs -- for the time being at least. But history will hold him (and others invloved) to account.
Tony (and Geoff I understand) are what Phillip Adams would call "God Botherers" ... well I'm a believer too -- of accountability!
The cult watching goes on.... and on ... and on... tiresome really!
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GALLOP OVER THE TRUTH
AND … “Geoff Gallop: Idealistic advocate caught out by his lack of cynicism” (http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21724186-7583,00.html) is a sop to one of the key perpetrators of this modern [Iraqi] carnage. Gallop concludes 'ode' with a friend’s hug (did he not learn the consequences of cuddling war criminals late in 2005?).
Tony Blair is a ‘believing fool’ and possibly worse – like G.W. Bush, he obviously believes that the ‘Divine force’ spoke and directed his actions – yeh? … smoke the other one Tony, and unlike Clinton try inhaling! You may not get to see the Truth -- but you'll definitely see the bullshit that spins round your ego's like Ozzie bush flies.
I’d drop Tony off in the middle of Baghdad city without his parliamentary pension and with a kick up his backside out the car door saying: “Fix this mess, jerk!”. Oh, and I’d give him a copy of the Good News (Geoff) Testament – not to covert the locals, but to read in his hotel room.
DAY1: Thou Shall Not Kill (or murder). Case study. Visit the grave yard and snigger at the 10-100,000s of dead Iraqi women, children and old folk – not to mention the chard remains of the Iraqi army incinerated by depleted uranium munitions.
And off you go to Geoff. Good news everywhere, for the blind ... You seem to be into running away from the mess you helped create as well. Oh, by the way, WA Inc II is going well here old chap! … I mean ‘Mate!’.
So Geoffrey, stick by your dumb mates by all means – but don’t come back here and consume our much depleted public health budget with your ‘depressions’! Better it went to the systemic Indigenous health system problem than your self indulgent middle-class neurosis. No compassion? Too hard? Naaa, you're worth it!
Yes, you developed the Sustainability program for WA – good on you. But past the words you never set up the viable system to carry it through. Anyways, has it ever occurred to you that by mixing the truth and ethical stances with the likes of Bush, Blair & Howard you run the risk of major duplicity? You are the one who needs cynicism, old chap – especially in respect to this likely future citizen of the unredeemed realms of the next world.
Ok, I'll stop here. Here comes that ‘black dog’ again … quick get that goooood-olde ‘belief’ out again … and please do not give my regards to your mate Tony: I want nothing to do with that Karma …
Tra!
Tuesday, March 27, 2007
Hicks' Will Fails...
Russell_c of Perth (27 March at 05:26 PM)
So David Hicks’ will has been broken at last by a pseudo-justice system in shambles, and one I believe that has been at it for 5+ demonic years, attacking his identity, respect and sense of right for a fair and just trial before his peers.
What we have here is not a travesty of justice: it is not a system of justice.
Rather it is a mock-up kangaroo court and bully process by a dysfunctional and hysterical system of governance and so called system of defence. There has been no defence of our 100 years of democratic tradition regarding the person and private citizen. The contrary applies.
There is no win for those that thirst for the blood of victims. And there is no need for the hysterical responses that suggest that David Hicks is some sort of proxy for all criminal behaviour that has affected Australian citizens. He is only responsible for what he did.
Clearly, his plea is not of guilt – but rather for release from the torture that he has been subjected to for half a decade without assistance from his government – for what: allegedly monitoring an old building?
I am even more angry that I was before. I look forward to his return to his home and family and the public retraction in due course once he gets his balance and sanity back. There is nothing in this outcome for us to be proud of as a nation: the poor bastard!
Thanks for trying M Mori (& co): I hope your US civilian lawyers get stuck into this farce back in the States where justice still counts for something it seems.
So David Hicks’ will has been broken at last by a pseudo-justice system in shambles, and one I believe that has been at it for 5+ demonic years, attacking his identity, respect and sense of right for a fair and just trial before his peers.
What we have here is not a travesty of justice: it is not a system of justice.
Rather it is a mock-up kangaroo court and bully process by a dysfunctional and hysterical system of governance and so called system of defence. There has been no defence of our 100 years of democratic tradition regarding the person and private citizen. The contrary applies.
There is no win for those that thirst for the blood of victims. And there is no need for the hysterical responses that suggest that David Hicks is some sort of proxy for all criminal behaviour that has affected Australian citizens. He is only responsible for what he did.
Clearly, his plea is not of guilt – but rather for release from the torture that he has been subjected to for half a decade without assistance from his government – for what: allegedly monitoring an old building?
I am even more angry that I was before. I look forward to his return to his home and family and the public retraction in due course once he gets his balance and sanity back. There is nothing in this outcome for us to be proud of as a nation: the poor bastard!
Thanks for trying M Mori (& co): I hope your US civilian lawyers get stuck into this farce back in the States where justice still counts for something it seems.
Wednesday, March 14, 2007
Success @ The Age!
"The nous of Howard?
Four years ago next week we invaded Iraq, and John Howard plans a big speech to mark the anniversary, writes Professor Hugh White."
100% WORD-4-WORD @ the AGE!
We saw some interesting precedents in the last 5 years. Some here have raised the ghost of Menzies -- or Pig Iron Bob as has was once called for his enthusiasm to equip Japan with the necessary raw materials to eventually make war on the USA and the rest of us. They got to Darwin I hear. Now Howard is sucking up to the followers of the great emperor (for who the sun rises & sets each day) who have not had the decency to admit their callous crimes against (comfort) women or the many tens of thousands of Chinese who were used in human ‘scientific’ experiments. But then Howard cannot even say ‘sorry’ to the indigenous peoples of this ancient land for callous wrong done in the name of ‘progress and empire’. I suggest we could largely outsource our defence needs to Japan – I mean they own significant chunks of the country, so why not defend their [own] assets! Perhaps if we hired the Japanese to defend us from the ‘imaginary enemy’ (be it Indonesia, Solomon Islands, New Guinea, New Zealand or Fiji) we could do a ‘done deal’ to sell our armed forces to defend them and their pacifist constitution.
[I forgot to add something about the RSL turning in their graves!]
So for the key precedents of the last ‘GWB-ha round’ that John Howard might want to talk on:
How we can arrest and try political leaders for their actions or inactions – as was done to Saddam H.
And I do not count myself as a ‘left wing Looney’ – I count myself as a voter with an eye to the future and intergenerational equity, fidelity to the truth and a responsibility to act from a sense of conscience and responsibility.
So, is delivering a speech to mark this anniversary a good idea? Who cares, if his continues to try and peddle his sad song of millennial miss-adventures. What matters is whether the general Australian community have awakened and grown tired of this type of basic ‘101-level’ propaganda or not.
Has Howard lost the political position and nous so apparent in his last two election victories? Yes, obviously, but I don’t accept the thesis that he had much in the first place. That he has been ‘successful’ in the job, as judged by temporal parameters, does not mean that that it has been good. Quite the opposite in my opinion: it has been a largely degenerate period.
I think there is a definite mood change in the society. I notice it in other areas also. The ‘tone @ the top’ is changing across many fields. The cult of the leader is dead and a new educated ‘online’ generation is @ work. Howard, Ruddock and Downer are not only ‘on the nose’ but symbolise a style of shonky ‘ethics’ that have become a parody of responsible and sustainable governance and now seem cartoon like for many of those who have awakened from the miasma matrix of ‘Neo-con-ism’.
The Australian economy is what it is because of basic fundamental changes achieved by Keating et al in earlier decades! The China boom has driven the recent extended prosperity wave, which even a proverbial “drover’s dog” could have ridden to success like the back of a farmer’s ute.
Buffoons like Downer, Tolkien whispering “Worm Tongues” like Ruddock, and the strange ‘Gollum like’ Howard are now, looking out the back window of the public bus, standing on the dirt road with the dust of history fast rising to obscure their sallow faces.
There is accountability, and in this world the sacrifice of the ‘king’ is part of the system of expunging the collective guilt. We are guilty collectively for the fiasco in Iraq as a bare minimum, not to mention the other classic sins (i.e. falling short of the mark). This speech of Howard’s is little more than politik at trying to shift and share the blame from himself to the community at large and should be rejected.
To continue the children’s ring metaphor, or is it simile, our dear little Sméagol has been dropped in the ‘poo’ along with the dark wizard from the Tower of London, and the Eye of Mordor (i.e. Sauron) that has emanated from the place formally referred to as the Washington “White House”. The millennial ‘fellowship’ of the willing, has become the end game of those that will use any ring to rule. Game over: it is not the end of the world, nor is there any rapture in progress, or to be expected in the near future by rational measures.
Bring on the next act and set of new actors please. This play has not only become boring, but dangerous to our international image – if there is any left.
Basically, I sense that Howard, like at the end of the days for old Bob Hawke, now just triggers the Ozzie cultural cringe that we are all plagued with here down under. It is time these three stooges slinked off to obscurity where they belong: we owe it to our future generations to end this farce in late 2007.
Bring on Ruddsville – at least it won’t be Dullsville, especially if we get our money’s worth from various commissions into the political shenanigans down-under in Canberra at the turn of the millennium.
Posted by: Russell_c at March 15, 2007 1:06 PM
(See: http://blogs.theage.com.au/yoursay/archives/2007/03/the_nous_of_how.html#comments )
Four years ago next week we invaded Iraq, and John Howard plans a big speech to mark the anniversary, writes Professor Hugh White."
100% WORD-4-WORD @ the AGE!
We saw some interesting precedents in the last 5 years. Some here have raised the ghost of Menzies -- or Pig Iron Bob as has was once called for his enthusiasm to equip Japan with the necessary raw materials to eventually make war on the USA and the rest of us. They got to Darwin I hear. Now Howard is sucking up to the followers of the great emperor (for who the sun rises & sets each day) who have not had the decency to admit their callous crimes against (comfort) women or the many tens of thousands of Chinese who were used in human ‘scientific’ experiments. But then Howard cannot even say ‘sorry’ to the indigenous peoples of this ancient land for callous wrong done in the name of ‘progress and empire’. I suggest we could largely outsource our defence needs to Japan – I mean they own significant chunks of the country, so why not defend their [own] assets! Perhaps if we hired the Japanese to defend us from the ‘imaginary enemy’ (be it Indonesia, Solomon Islands, New Guinea, New Zealand or Fiji) we could do a ‘done deal’ to sell our armed forces to defend them and their pacifist constitution.
[I forgot to add something about the RSL turning in their graves!]
So for the key precedents of the last ‘GWB-ha round’ that John Howard might want to talk on:
How we can arrest and try political leaders for their actions or inactions – as was done to Saddam H.
- How we can fund an evil regime and make war on it at the same time – as long as the Foreign Minister and Prime Minster ‘know nothing’.
How we can ignore our duty to protect our citizens when incarcerated in overseas jails as long as they were Moslems and made a few anti-Semitic statements.
How we can spend $billions on ‘planned’ US war planes that will, based on the last batch of F111s, never shoot a single bullet in anger and are many think substandard to the existing Russian machines that the rest of Asia are purchasing.
And I do not count myself as a ‘left wing Looney’ – I count myself as a voter with an eye to the future and intergenerational equity, fidelity to the truth and a responsibility to act from a sense of conscience and responsibility.
So, is delivering a speech to mark this anniversary a good idea? Who cares, if his continues to try and peddle his sad song of millennial miss-adventures. What matters is whether the general Australian community have awakened and grown tired of this type of basic ‘101-level’ propaganda or not.
Has Howard lost the political position and nous so apparent in his last two election victories? Yes, obviously, but I don’t accept the thesis that he had much in the first place. That he has been ‘successful’ in the job, as judged by temporal parameters, does not mean that that it has been good. Quite the opposite in my opinion: it has been a largely degenerate period.
I think there is a definite mood change in the society. I notice it in other areas also. The ‘tone @ the top’ is changing across many fields. The cult of the leader is dead and a new educated ‘online’ generation is @ work. Howard, Ruddock and Downer are not only ‘on the nose’ but symbolise a style of shonky ‘ethics’ that have become a parody of responsible and sustainable governance and now seem cartoon like for many of those who have awakened from the miasma matrix of ‘Neo-con-ism’.
The Australian economy is what it is because of basic fundamental changes achieved by Keating et al in earlier decades! The China boom has driven the recent extended prosperity wave, which even a proverbial “drover’s dog” could have ridden to success like the back of a farmer’s ute.
Buffoons like Downer, Tolkien whispering “Worm Tongues” like Ruddock, and the strange ‘Gollum like’ Howard are now, looking out the back window of the public bus, standing on the dirt road with the dust of history fast rising to obscure their sallow faces.
There is accountability, and in this world the sacrifice of the ‘king’ is part of the system of expunging the collective guilt. We are guilty collectively for the fiasco in Iraq as a bare minimum, not to mention the other classic sins (i.e. falling short of the mark). This speech of Howard’s is little more than politik at trying to shift and share the blame from himself to the community at large and should be rejected.
To continue the children’s ring metaphor, or is it simile, our dear little Sméagol has been dropped in the ‘poo’ along with the dark wizard from the Tower of London, and the Eye of Mordor (i.e. Sauron) that has emanated from the place formally referred to as the Washington “White House”. The millennial ‘fellowship’ of the willing, has become the end game of those that will use any ring to rule. Game over: it is not the end of the world, nor is there any rapture in progress, or to be expected in the near future by rational measures.
Bring on the next act and set of new actors please. This play has not only become boring, but dangerous to our international image – if there is any left.
Basically, I sense that Howard, like at the end of the days for old Bob Hawke, now just triggers the Ozzie cultural cringe that we are all plagued with here down under. It is time these three stooges slinked off to obscurity where they belong: we owe it to our future generations to end this farce in late 2007.
Bring on Ruddsville – at least it won’t be Dullsville, especially if we get our money’s worth from various commissions into the political shenanigans down-under in Canberra at the turn of the millennium.
Posted by: Russell_c at March 15, 2007 1:06 PM
(See: http://blogs.theage.com.au/yoursay/archives/2007/03/the_nous_of_how.html#comments )
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